Thursday, April 30, 2009

gordo to kb9rqz and back

I do NOT approve of the guys here in the US that deliberately QRM someone else. YES, you know who you are and so do the rest of us. If little old me from southern California knows, then I am sure a smart fellow like Riley knows as well. Riley needs to step up and start cleaning house here in the US.
It's time he starts taking licenses for it, don't you agree?



Gordon N6WK [no friend/who occasionally is “used” by Brian] in “Is 14.275 Mhz normal amateur radio?” on QRZ.com 9 Apr ‘08



No, Gordon. It is well past time that RH started taking licenses. Nor am I as certain that RH is bright enough to know. Years in Gov’t service, traveling to hamfests at public expense (a nice job I’d take myself, if I could get it), does tend to dull the mind….


Mark KB9RQZ in “Comments on Karol’s Quotes” 10 Apr ‘08

Wednesday, April 29, 2009

ok crow

  • The only authorized information concerning suckK3VRoff can be found by visiting http://suckK3VRoff.com
    Thank You!

Brian ‘Circle Jerk CROW’ K3VR as usual [the CMSPIRG imprimatur refers] inter alia on nnseek.com 9 Apr ‘08

Tuesday, April 28, 2009

kb9rqz belabouring the obvious

  • Yes indeed, you have me again, totally on the record, that the VE7KFM.com is a hate site.
    I remain, as always, entirely at your legal service.

Mark KB9RQZ to Brian K3VR a.k.a. Dloyd after “More Demented Threats” on ACCOUNTS OF THE KOSHER HAM 8 Apr ‘08


nothing BTW has been heard by KB9RQZ about the alleged libel suit this refers SoL expired 4APR09 BTW

Gordon Benjamin, N6WK, made several odious deposits which were immediately flushed from the forum. [ß A pity I obviously did not catch all them, HI. See his posts on 6 Apr ’08 above.] One of Benjamin's remarks even hinted at a dark conspiracy piloted by an administrator of the site. [ß Coprophiliacs of/on ‘QeerZ’, Unite?]


Brian ‘Shit Disturber CROW’ K3VR ‘droppings’ about Gordon’s ‘QeerZ’ posts, on his FRAUDulent site ‘as if mine’ 7 Apr ‘08

Monday, April 27, 2009

ah the joy of remailing crap

  • [Eureka! Overnight FWD (original ‘as if’ from me !!!), but apparently FWD’d by Gordon to me via a CNN re-mailer]

    ve7kfm@gmail.com wrote: [
    ß Bells, Whistles, Sirens, Flashing Lights, etc.--because I have NOT e-mailed Gordon in mo.]
    CNN.com <http://www.cnn.com> [
    ß ß Bells, Whistles, Sirens, Flashing Lights, etc.—stay a lert, Gordon.]
    window.open('http://www.clickability.com/landing/interactivetools1' .…

    * Please note, the sender's email address has not been verified. [
    ß ß ß Bells, Whistles, Sirens, Flashing Lights, etc.]

    Hameerikan dumb fuck. Remember, you do not speak for me.
    Regards,
    K
    [ß Ex abundanti cautela: Non Est Factum. Also, carefully compare the writing style. It’s NOT mine, Gordon….]

    [In the above FWD was a note, apparently added by Gordon, who publicly professes to abhor obscenities, HI]
    FUCK OFF , You Dumb Ignorant Shit ! [ß Right On, Gordon—but to the FRAUDulent Psycho who sent it to you!]

    [A few minutes later, this was followed by an original e-mail, apparently by Gordon N6WK, but again via the CNN re-mailer]

    FUCK YOU !!!!
    You Ignorant piece of Shit !!
    [ß Again, Gordon, Right message, Wrong addressee! But, do stay a lert!]

    [This followed a few minutes later by yet another e-mail, again apparently by Gordon N6WK, via the CNN re-mailer, asking]
    Oh, By the way, Post That response….

Gordon ‘your wish is my command’ N6WK 3 overnight e-mails [all likely Brian ‘Psycho CROW’ K3VR dis-info.] 6/7 Apr ‘08

Sunday, April 26, 2009

emailing gordo?

  • To KFM,
    Please stop emailing me.
    [ß Huh??? This was/is news to me!!! But, see Eureka, below, for a possible explanation….]

Gordon N6WK [naiive/under a serious mis-apprehension] in “Is 14.275 Mhz normal amateur radio?” on QRZ.com 7 Apr ‘08

Saturday, April 25, 2009

qrz is amazing ain't it

  • Isn't it amazing that if you respond to a post in this thread that your post may disappear if it isn't in agreement with some of the local weirdos ? [ß As a paid-up “Super Subscriber” on ‘QeerZ’, why are you so surprised, Gordon?]

Gordon ‘Naiive’ N6WK in “Is 14.275 Mhz normal amateur radio?” on QRZ.com 7 Apr ‘08

from k3vr or not

K3VR said...
From what I just found out, LS has the green light on yanking the licenses of any hams who exhibit antisocial behavior due to mental problems.

Looks like you and Mark tard, along with folks like Tolassi, are about to get booted at long last.

The hobby will be better off without you.
from this site

Friday, April 24, 2009

repeones to advice

  • WOW, What a great question.
    I can't say.
    Will YOU go away?
    Are you an Idiot here in the USA? [ß And do bears shit in HAMereekan woods, Gordon?]

Gordon N6WK’s pithy retort to Paul N1LAF [removed] in “Is 14.275 Mhz normal amateur radio?” on QRZ.com 6 Apr ‘08

  • No!
    Why should I.
    It seems some of you are dumber then dumb.

Gordon N6WK’s 2nd but self-censored retort to Paul N1LAF in “Is 14.275 Mhz normal amateur radio?” on QRZ.com 6 Apr ‘08

Thursday, April 23, 2009

interesting advice from gordon

As stated over a Year ago, If you IGNORE him, he will go away.
Unfortunately, there are IDIOTS here in the USA that just are NOT smart enough to understand that small point!
Then there are those that brag about what close friends they are with Riley.…
I wonder if Riley feels the same way??
Trust me.… He DOESN'T !


Gordon N6WK [no friend of mine] general cogent comment in “Is 14.275 Mhz normal amateur radio?” on QRZ.com 6 Apr ‘08

Wednesday, April 22, 2009

someone commenting on VE7KFM.com

  • This is a hate site, devoted to maligning private individuals with whom the anonymous owner(s) disagree or whom they dislike. It has even used an internationally unique identifier - the call sign assigned to a Canadian radio amateur - as the domain name. This is clearly unethical at the very best, and reflects badly on both the owners and the domain hosting service - qth.com.

Additional Info on “AboutUs Wiki Page” concerning Brian ‘Psycho CROW’ K3VR’s FRAUDulent website ‘as if mine’ 5 Apr ‘08

Tuesday, April 21, 2009

corw crows

  • I do my best, quietly, and humbly. [ß Yeah, right! Is that like the “A decent radio amateur from USA”, above?]
    I hope you'll forgive me if I point out that you continue to demonstrate poor judgement
    [sic] by engaging the Canadian….
    Your refusal to cooperate is noted and logged. [ß Ja Wohl! Sieg Heil!]

Brian ‘Radio COP’ K3VR’s hubris and threats to Whitney N3ZV in “Is 14.275 Mhz normal amateur radio?” on QRZ.com 4 Apr ‘08

  • Fortunately, both frauds were discovered in short order and traced to those supporting the malicious defamation of Karol Madera.

Brian K3VR rare ~accurate comment re his FRAUDS defaming VE7KFM [!] on QRZ as posted on his FRAUDulent site 4 Apr ‘08

Monday, April 20, 2009

whitney asks crow to be fair

I still wonder why you will not go after the jammers on 14.275 MHz. Part 97 clearly indicates what jamming is yet YOU seem to think it is OK to jam at will. Go after the folks that do not use a call sign…. Make yourself useful and be part of the solution instead of part of the problem. Mr. Crow, I will not ever cooperate with you.


Whitney N3ZV to Brian ‘Psycho CROW’ K3VR in “Is 14.275 Mhz normal amateur radio?” on QRZ.com 4 Apr ‘08

Sunday, April 19, 2009

k3vr admits ve7kfm gets jammed

Whitney: Stop calling the Canadian… and engaging him on 14.275. He's invariably jammed, which inevitably leads to him using the crudest, most God awful vulgarities…. [ß Brian: Stop jamming me. Instead, go see Riley.]


Brian ‘Radio COP’ K3VR the Anti-Democratic Neo-CON in “Is 14.275 Mhz normal amateur radio?” on QRZ.com 4 Apr ‘08
  • I rarely stop my VFO on 14.275 anymore because of the retards that hang out there. I left the CB radio years ago to rid myself of the retards, so I will also stay away from 14.275. "KFM" isn't the only one. If I stop my VFO at any given time on 14.275, I often here some idiot [Brian’s buddy, Mikee KZ8O] making stupid noises, complaining of contesters, deliberately interfering with other hams, playing music, etc. The retards can have the frequency I don't care, I'll just stay away from them. I hope that someday there will be a crackdown by the FCC.

Dave KB0PTV in Ham Radio 14.275 by “Trucker Fred” a.k.a. Brian on Truckers’ Trucking Forum 31 Mar ‘08

Saturday, April 18, 2009

why use other peoples calls

  • Surely you noticed that VE7KFM is in Canada and that the FCC is limited to the USA.

    OTOH
    I would certainly vote prison time for at least one of the jammers I HEARD on the freq. and make him a registered sex offender in the bargain. Wisely, he ID’d, but with an ID not his own. I know that because the ID belonged to my wife and she was in my LOS, not on the air.

Mark KB9RQZ to Brian K3VR and his ‘FCC sanctioned jammers’ in “What's 14.275 Mhz all about???” on QRZ.com 10 Mar ‘08

  • The jammers (albeit illegal) are creative though. I've heard country music, white noise, military marches, even heard the National Anthem once!
    The thing that cracks me up the most is
    the Klown who returns to the same frequency (+/- 3 kHZ) over and over and over again, only to weep and sob that he's being jammed.

Brian ‘Psycho CROW’ K3VR still slurping on Riley’s Dayton swill in “What's 14.275 Mhz all about???” on QRZ.com 10 Mar ‘08

  • The FCC has shown zero interest in those jamming the Canadian's transmissions, and I think I know why…. I doubt very much that any US jury would sanction a US citizen for jamming the dweeb, even if the FCC cared, which, obviously, they do not.

Brian ‘Psycho CROW’ K3VR confirming the obvious in “What's 14.275 Mhz all about???” on QRZ.com 10 Mar ‘08

Friday, April 17, 2009

gordo

  • What is up with the unprovoked ATTACKS on me VE7DCW ??
    I think you need to be banned….
    You really should lose your posting rights.
    You bring nothing important to post…
    you troll the forums looking for things you can bait, basically, you are worthless to this place or any other. Shame on You !! Again, You really should be Banned !!!
    You are totally OUT of LINE! …
    You are such a LOSER !!!!! [ß What do you expect from a CB’er, even if Canadian, Gordon?]

Gordon N6WK [no friend] to Gerry ‘Brian’s Loser’ VE7DCW in “14.275 mhz Worse Than CB?” on QRZ.com 2 Mar ‘08

  • I don't care whose friend he is, if he attacks me, I have the right to defend myself. If he is really your friend, perhaps you should mention to him that he should restrain himself from these sort of activities.

Gordon to his new friend ‘Buffoon Bob’ NA4BH about Gerry in “14.275 mhz Worse Than CB?” on QRZ.com 6 Mar ‘08

one is too many

  • Karol has too many folks who are willing to take any statement he says and turn it around 180 degrees. They take a normal "good morning" and turn it into something dirty and obscene. [ß Psycho Brian is a master at this.]

Bob AI4EP getting the ‘180 degree phasing problem’ right in “14.275 mhz Worse Than CB?” on QRZ.com 28 Feb ‘08

Thursday, April 16, 2009

qrz and the rules

04/16/09Furthermore let me fill you in a little on some important information about QRZ.

#1 QRZ forms have very little to do with ham radio, it's not a non biased forum, and double standards are very prolific.
#2 There is a very small group of hams on QRZ who get to say and attack anyone they want with impunity.
#3 QRZ is where a small group of insignificant hams hang out who feel the need to make ham radio look as petty and ridiculous as they possibly can.

My best advice to you is to place these trouble makers on your ignore list and avoid them. This will drastically reduce the number of posts you see but hopefully what is left will be more intelligent and actually have something to do with ham radio.


Geo. N6YG to Laura after she was Banned for telling the truth, on “14.275 mhz Worse Than CB?” on QRZ.com 28 Feb ‘08

is Crow behind this latest and bootless atack?

as cronicled here

it was amde to look kida like kz8o but then that does not preclude the crow being behind it.

I just don't know

what I do knpow is that whoever sent it has given me a great chance to talk up my webstore and talk down my foes

if you feel calling my wife a shemale in an effort to harm my sales a bad thing consider buying something at the shop or just






some amount of your choice

Wednesday, April 15, 2009

we interupt this blog

for a tea party account return ing now to your regularly skeded blog

qrz.con don't need no rules

  • I'm going to report you because you were BANNED, you're not supposed to be posting here, now you're going to get your wife banned too! [ß Guilt by association again, ‘Jiggaboo’? Just like the MO of your FRAUDulent puppeteer!]

Ryan N2RJ, Brian’s Deputy Sheriff [posting his FRAUDulent URL] on “14.275 mhz Worse Than CB?” on QRZ.com 27 Feb ‘08

  • Why would I get banned because I let someone you don't like post under my call and supervision? Where is the violation of this site's TOS?
    I can see why my husband had an attitude towards people like you.

Laura KD5EXX’s principled post to Ryan ‘Jiggaboo’ N2RJ in “14.275 mhz Worse Than CB?” on QRZ.com 27 Feb ‘08

  • N2RJ, I don't know who you are but by what my husband has told me about you. Most of it unfavorable. Rest assured this is Laura Materne at the keyboard. If you don't stop harrassing me I'll report YOU to the moderators and see if they deal with you with the same justice they showed my husband, Jerry. [ß You’re dreaming, Laura!]

Laura KD5EXX to Ryan in “14.275 mhz Worse Than CB?” on QRZ.com 27 Feb ‘08

  • Well my husband is my husband. This is me. Is this how you greet returning members? Yes, I let my husband respond to this thread because we have both been listening to that circus on 14.275. I made sure he didn't post anything offensive and he made sure the act was NOT hidden.

    Every post after that is me at the keyboard with my husband watching under his call. He can read, he just can't post. I can hear him laughing from the other room.

    So, nice to be back. Thanks for the warm welcome.
    A welcome that appears to be of QRZ.COM tradition.

Laura KD5EXX commenting about the “moral insanity” at ‘QeerZ’ in “14.275 mhz Worse Than CB?” on QRZ.com 28 Feb ‘08

  • My husband and I both agree what we hear on 14.275 is much worse than anything we have ever heard on channel 19. Karol is one thing but what surprised me the most are the so-called technically inclined becoming children and playing right into his hands. As a female, I know men will do things in the background to get others to do all the dirty work [ß organized by Psycho Brian CROW K3VR]. Karol… is but one man. Believe it or not, most of his speech is protected here but here's the clincher, he isn't in America….

    The hams jamming him are indeed violating FCC rules and regulations and are therefore subject to the FCC's wrath. So, Karol may be crazy but he sure has got a lot of people that are complete idiots doing his work for him.

Laura KD5EXX ~seeing through a glass, darkly, HI, in “14.275 mhz Worse Than CB?” on QRZ.com 28 Feb ‘08

  • Is this guy for real? He's more of a woman than me. I'm jealous now my husband talked so much with you. Is there something I should know? [ß Yes, Laura. Homo-sexuals are patently over-represented in the ‘misfit group’.]

    Laura Materne (the cute jealous wife of a bitter ham)

Laura KD5EXX to Ryan ‘Jiggaboo’ N2RJ in “14.275 mhz Worse Than CB?” on QRZ.com 28 Feb ‘08

  • I know there is a certain amount of anger between this guy and my husband but I have already identified myself to this man as his wife. I have not posted anything to hurt this man's feelings. Why is he so bent of having me banned and why his hatred towards me? Really, I would like to know. I have even asked him to stop going after me based on what my husband has done to him. Still he persists in acting like a school-yard bully and has threatened to have me banned? Why?

    Laura Materne (confused but cute)

    PS. I am one of three that has actually contributed to this post about the actual subject of the post. Too bad
    I had to defend myself for the most part of it from these personal attacks. Moderators please make a note of the people that came in here solely to attack me and have not offered one thought towards what the originator posted as subject. Just because my husband, a person you banned, posted in here showing me how to do it and identified himself as doing so these people have been out for blood with me. Now, you can all keep attacking me or I'll persist. I will not cuss, I will not post anything negative. I will defend myself though. What I will do is give the moderators a good clue as to who the trouble-makers are in here. Keep attacking me.
 

Laura’s last cogent but futile post before she got Banned [Shame!], in “14.275 mhz Worse Than CB?” on QRZ.com 28 Feb ‘08

laughter

  • We laugh everytime we hear that frequency. Great entertainment. We don't know who's more wrong. Karol or the people trying to jam him. We wonder how many of the jammers are 20 wpm extras and 13 wpm Generals? Good question for another thread?

    DE KC5CSG posting under the permission and supervision of KD5EXX (my wife).

    Jerry and Laura Materne

Jerry KC5CSG in “14.275 mhz Worse Than CB?” on QRZ.com 27 Feb ‘08

Monday, April 13, 2009

FCC premission

  • With FCC permission,
    he claims that he's got,
    dances around issues,
    keeps stirring the pot.
    Up in your face,
    about all the
    rules,
    don't even care,
    if you start singing the blues.
    Oh yeah the CROW is a riot,
    with all his attempts to put you back quiet.

Jesse KC9JIQ’s hilarious but apt boilerplate verse on QRZ.com ~Feb ‘08

Sunday, April 12, 2009

investagtions

  • Is this investigation an internal one? What are they investigating, lack of enforcement, serial Part 97 violators or idiots like k3vr and company. k3vr still has me listed as a fraud, this is the pot calling the kettle black. I wish he would come clean and finally admit to jacking the Official Observer name [on eHAM], that he impersonated a lawyer, one Barrister Matthew Baker from London [via FRAUDulent e-mail], or the impersonation of one Dr. Leo Winters [by then SK], or how about his impersonating Ben Bialy a [terminally ill octogenarian] ham that had no computer. Brian Crow, I think, has multiple personalities, or he just may be a real sack of crap.

Whitney [?] n3zvwvt in “FCC Investigation?” on “14275” on Yahoo Groups 19 Feb ‘08

Saturday, April 11, 2009

  • I don't know who you think died and left you as god, but I thank the real God you are not, or the world would be a sad and sorry place, ruled by a hate monger like yourself and a gutless one too.

Mark KB9RQZ replying to Dloyd/DeLorean a.k.a. Brian ‘Psycho CROW’ K3VR in “dloyd’s basic delusion” repost 26 Jan ‘08

Friday, April 10, 2009

  • It's time that you [Todd N9OGL] and Mark Morgan, kb9rqz, are both dealt with because of the bad publicity your [sic] each giving to ham radio. You'll go down first, and then we'll take care of kb9rqz. He has been making false reports about hams he doesn't like to law enforcement [deja vu Brian?], and mounting denial of service attacks [ditto—remember Mark, Todd & Yahoo! Brian?] on usenet groups. Those actions go to character as well as being feloneous [sic] activities. RH is following Mark's activities closely. [Ja Vohl, Mein Fuhrer! Alles in Ordnung! Sieg Heil!]

Brian CROW K3VR’s HAMereekan Hubris in “FCC All For Deployment of Broadband…..NOT!!!!” on N9OGL Forum 23 Jan ‘08

Wednesday, April 8, 2009

3 short ones

  • This guy is a dirt Bag.
    Reminds me too much of K3VR and his band of misfits. [From the MO+ I’m certain it was Brian CROW K3VR.]

Gordon N6WK re: a ‘telling’ attack on Tom KC9ECI described in “HamSexy Waste of Flesh Award” on HamSexy.com 5 Jan ‘08

  • Listen to me ... a lot of serial killers are ham radio operators.

Howard STERN to David LETTERMAN [about the 14.275 serial Criminals/Mafia/Gang?] 11 Jan ‘08

  • [T]he other Web Site about KFM seems to be nothing more then a bunch of Lies put together….

Gordon re Brian ‘Psycho’ CROW K3VR’s website in “Is It Right, For others to Quote you from QRZ ?” on QRZ.com 13 Jan ‘08

Tuesday, April 7, 2009

  • What a lot people are upset with is that K3VR has taken on the role of the DECIDER of who transmits on 14.275 MHz, or who can listen to the guy from Canada. I have heard K3VR, KZ8O, W4NTI, N1FM, and others, intentionally attempt to talk over the guy from Canada. Saying different, doesn’t make it so. I’ve heard him and them do it MANY times. Those guys have NO RIGHT to do so. I personally know of NO ONE who supports the guy from Canada’s viewpoint, but he does have the right to his viewpoint(s). What K3VR fails to understand is that WE can decide for ourselves if we wish to hear what the guy in Canada has to say. We don’t need K3VR’s help. K3VR, if you don’t like what you hear, do as Riley Hollingsworth told you, use the big knob. IMO, when Riley Hollingsworth stated there were A LOT of bad operators on 14.275 MHz, he was directly referring to those such as KZ8O, N1FM, WA1BHV, and YOU K3VR. K3VR has caused A LOT of problems for the FCC, and I feel sure he will be dealt with, accordingly. The sooner K3VR and company are removed from the airways, the better.

“Gordo” in K3VR TOPIX thread ~30 Dec ‘07

alphbet soup

  • K3VR is blowing his top. Good. Continue to post the TRUTH and ONLY THE TRUTH about K3VR. Let him whine to the FCC, FBI, CIA, DOJ, IRS, and any other acronym he wishes. Trouble will come to NO ONE that POST THE TRUTH about K3VR.
 
“Gordon” in K3VR TOPIX thread 19 Dec ‘07

Sunday, April 5, 2009

k3vr the sicko

  • ve7kfm A popular variation of felching and snowballing. A "ve7kfm" is a homosexual practice that originated in the gay bath houses on the outskirts of Victoria, BC, in Canada, near the area adjacent to Tillicum Mall. To participate in a "ve7kfm" one man administers an enema to another man and several men then drink the product of the expulsion. The practice is differentiated from regular felching in that the fluid is sucked from the anus with a straw and (ideally) the fluid should consist of at least 7 ounces of chilled sperm, preferably from multiple African males (gay or straight). The name is derived from the recipe -- a "very easy 7 ounce enema of kind friendly males" shortened to ve7kfm. ToeJoe and Junior shared a ve7kfm with Karol and Gordy and a good time was had by all. Source: Tor Heyerdahl, Elyria, OH [ß a.k.a. Brian ‘Psycho’ CROW (signing as his dog “Tor”) in Hyper Homo-Sexual mode.]

‘No More Trolls’, Elyria, OH [a.k.a. Brian] in K3VR TOPIX, linking to this/his vile submission on urbandictionary.com 29 Dec ‘07

Saturday, April 4, 2009

k3vr into crossdressing?

  • What a worthless shit. Out of millions of posts to the cluster in a year, this assclown not only whines about two spots, but does so from behind a skirt…. 14.275 called, one of its retards is missing.
 
Tom KC9ECI [about Brian ‘I Squat to Pee’ CROW K3VR] in “Hamsexy’s Waste of Flesh Award™” on HamSexy.com 18 Dec ‘

Friday, April 3, 2009

info warfare is the net

  • Yes, I do think this is the place. I'm sorry, I thought this was the Internet. It's all about Information. This guy is LYING about me, and I want him exposed. I get along with most everyone. It’s Liars I have a problem with and the guy I speak of is a liar. I am out to expose him for who and what he is. It's not dirty laundry, it is the truth.

Gordon to Paul N1LAF about Brian’s FRAUD re: his 30 Aug ’07 e-mail in “Someone Posts False Info.” on QRZ.com 13 Dec ‘07

Thursday, April 2, 2009

crow is Capt america

  • Mr. Crow's busy safeguarding our nation from enemies foreign and domestic, which is one reason he's being attacked by an affiliate of al Qaeda. [ß I hope Al Qaeda drives your teeth out your asshole, Brian.]

Brian ‘Psycho’ K3VR ‘Crowing’ about himself & “enemies” fictitious & contrived on Rolville USA 13 Dec ‘07

Wednesday, April 1, 2009

nazis invoked and no

end of the attack my my"Crazy son of nazi collaborators."
Hey Mr. Defamation per se, care to share some proof of that? Oh that's right, only Mr. Crow can be defamed!
Go home, loser. [This, after a particularly vile post by ‘Psycho’ Brian posing as “Maciej”, the name of my dead Father.]


“Anonymous” [Gordon (?) above] to Brian ‘Mr. Defamation’ CROW K3VR who then ‘folded the tent’ on Rolville USA ~10 Dec ‘07